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Our Rough Draft

Around the microphone.

We're still figuring it out, too.

Most of our conversations start the same way they do in real life—with something ordinary.

A trip.

A memory.

A holiday.

A question one of us can't quite let go.

Somewhere along the way, they usually become about something much bigger.

Over the years, we've discovered that people don't always need the newest conversation—they need the right conversation. So we've gathered our episodes of Our Rough Draft around the topics that seem to find all of us eventually.

You can certainly start from the beginning and follow the story as it unfolds. Or, if today you need a conversation about marriage, family, belonging, work, travel, or simply finding your footing again. . .

we've got you.

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When You Forget Yourself
Marriage & Relationships Denise Leigh Waters Marriage & Relationships Denise Leigh Waters

When You Forget Yourself

A conversation about connection, marriage, and the people who help us find our way back.

What if the way you naturally reconnect isn't the same as your partner's?

In this episode, we take Denise's new Connection Quiz for the very first time and discover that the results aren't nearly as important as the conversations they begin.

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