Tim & Denise laughing

Our Rough Draft

Around the microphone.

We're still figuring it out, too.

Most of our conversations start the same way they do in real life—with something ordinary.

A trip.

A memory.

A holiday.

A question one of us can't quite let go.

Somewhere along the way, they usually become about something much bigger.

Over the years, we've discovered that people don't always need the newest conversation—they need the right conversation. So we've gathered our episodes of Our Rough Draft around the topics that seem to find all of us eventually.

You can certainly start from the beginning and follow the story as it unfolds. Or, if today you need a conversation about marriage, family, belonging, work, travel, or simply finding your footing again. . .

we've got you.

Already have a favorite place to listen? You'll find us there, too.

What’s on your mind today?

The Families We Carry With Us
Family & Culture Denise Leigh Waters Family & Culture Denise Leigh Waters

The Families We Carry With Us

Long before we fall in love or choose a career, our families begin shaping the way we see ourselves and the world. Denise reflects on growing up between two families and how understanding our past can help us move forward with greater awareness and intention.

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The Story We Keep Telling
Family & Culture Denise Leigh Waters Family & Culture Denise Leigh Waters

The Story We Keep Telling

Every relationship has a story that gets told again and again. In the first episode of Our Rough Draft, Denise and Tim revisit the moments that brought them together and explore how ordinary beginnings become part of a family's legacy.

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