Tim & Denise laughing

Our Rough Draft

Around the microphone.

We're still figuring it out, too.

Most of our conversations start the same way they do in real life—with something ordinary.

A trip.

A memory.

A holiday.

A question one of us can't quite let go.

Somewhere along the way, they usually become about something much bigger.

Over the years, we've discovered that people don't always need the newest conversation—they need the right conversation. So we've gathered our episodes of Our Rough Draft around the topics that seem to find all of us eventually.

You can certainly start from the beginning and follow the story as it unfolds. Or, if today you need a conversation about marriage, family, belonging, work, travel, or simply finding your footing again. . .

we've got you.

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What Are You Still Working On?
Better Conversations, Becoming Denise Leigh Waters Better Conversations, Becoming Denise Leigh Waters

What Are You Still Working On?

As Denise and Tim begin year two of Our Rough Draft, they return to the reason the podcast has always carried that name: none of us are finished yet.

In this conversation, they talk about confidence, belonging, work, aging, parenting adult children, marketing your own voice, and what it means to keep becoming without trying to prove your worth. Along the way, they ask a simple but honest question: what are you still working on?

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